Mayflower District Court
#r_surgent-v-accurateswalker-mayflower-state-police
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surgent 2025-08-24 01:26 p.m.
My attorney is @nick
surgent 2025-08-25 10:10 p.m.@Awesome ^
surgent 2025-08-25 10:10 p.m.
If you can add him
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cabot 2025-08-26 08:05 p.m.@nick Submit docs 48 hours
surgentIf you can add him
Awesome 2025-08-27 07:18 a.m.
Apologies, my sleep schedule is a bit scuffed. I didn’t see the @ until this afternoon
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[CIVIL COMPLAINT](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jwmf0BBGyDb8A1EFZ5h3WHbHxNHIBIA8/preview)
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Awesome 2025-08-30 05:42 p.m.@Secret Your Answer to Plaintiff’s Complaint is due 09/01/2025, unless extended by Order of the Court.
Awesome 2025-08-30 05:43 p.m.
cc:@Solicitor General's Office
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Secret 2025-08-31 10:50 p.m.
Your honor, would it be possible to have an extension on this deadline while I speak with and find counsel?
SecretYour honor, would it be possible to have an extension on this deadline while I speak with and find counsel?
Awesome 2025-09-01 03:45 a.m.
Sure. Extended until 09/03/2025.
AwesomeSure. Extended until 09/03/2025.
Secret 2025-09-02 11:17 p.m.
Your honor, I truly apologize, however I am not sure what my options are and I've been having trouble finding a lawyer
SecretYour honor, I truly apologize, however I am not sure what my options are and I've been having trouble finding a lawyer
Awesome 2025-09-03 09:29 p.m.
Ok, extended further until 09/06/2025. I won’t extend it further, however, absent good cause.
Awesome 2025-09-05 08:45 p.m.@Secret
nick 2025-09-06 02:46 a.m.
Your Honour, Plaintiff r_surgent respectfully moves to dismiss all claims against Defendant Mayflower State Police without prejudice. Plaintiff seeks to proceed solely against Defendant AccurateSWalker in his individual capacity.(edited)
nick 2025-09-06 02:46 a.m.@Awesome
nickAwesome 2025-09-06 08:32 a.m.
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Awesome 2025-09-06 08:33 a.m.
Defendants’ Response, if any, is due 09/08/2025.
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AwesomeDefendants’ Response, if any, is due 09/08/2025.
nick 2025-09-11 01:30 p.m.
Your Honour, the deadline?
nickYour Honour, the deadline?
Awesome 2025-09-12 08:04 a.m.
Default is entered. Now, the question is on damages. I’ll allow submissions from either sides on what amount of compensatory and/or punitive damages is appropriate until 09/14/2025.
AwesomeDefault is entered. Now, the question is on damages. I’ll allow submissions from either sides on what amount of compensatory and/or punitive damages is appropriate until 09/14/2025...
nick 2025-09-13 06:41 a.m.
$250,000 (compensatory) + $300,00 (punitive) = $550,000(edited)
Secret 2025-09-15 01:29 p.m.
$0 because all of the allegations are false and I haven’t had the chance to adequately defend myself, especially after the solicitor generals office said they would have a response by the 8th, missed their deadline and tried to delete my ticket in their server without them knowing 
nick 2025-09-15 07:18 p.m.@Awesome Your Honour?
Secret 2025-09-15 08:17 p.m.
a message was deleted from here 
nickAwesome 2025-09-17 10:01 p.m.
I’m so, so sorry for the delay. I lost internet until yesterday afternoon, due to a (botched) NBN upgrade.
AwesomeI’m so, so sorry for the delay. I lost internet until yesterday afternoon, due to a (botched) NBN upgrade.
nick 2025-09-18 12:53 p.m.
Noted, Your Honour. Thank you for the update, no worries on our end.
nick 2025-09-22 11:47 a.m.@Awesome Your Honour, may I respectfully inquire whether the Court has had an opportunity to review the damages submissions?
nick 2025-09-27 11:44 p.m.@Xerxy we need reassignment
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judicialFLOW Bot2025-10-01 03:56 p.m.Requester: @nick
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nick 2025-10-04 07:41 p.m.MOTION FOR DEFAULT JUDGMENT
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AwesomeDefault is entered. Now, the question is on damages. I’ll allow submissions from either sides on what amount of compensatory and/or punitive damages is appropriate until 09/14/2025...
nick 2025-10-04 07:41 p.m.
^
nick
Brenda 2025-10-04 08:33 p.m.@nick @surgent @Secret
Pursuant to Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 37(e)–(g), Plaintiff’s motion for default judgment isGRANTED ; accordingly, it is ORDERED that final judgment is entered against Defendant pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 37(e); Defendant shall pay to Plaintiff within 48 hours of the entry of this Order punitive damages of $300,000.00. Any party seeking an evidentiary hearing on damages shall file a Rule 37(g) motion within 48 hours, in which case this Order will terminate, or forever waive such opportunity. Signed by District Judge Brenda Popplewell (Entered: 10/05/2002).(edited)
Pursuant to Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 37(e)–(g), Plaintiff’s motion for default judgment is
nick 2025-10-04 08:34 p.m.
Your Honour, compensatory damages?(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-04 08:34 p.m.
Compensatory damages are denied. There has been no evidence of medical expenses or other actual damages.
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Brenda 2025-10-04 08:37 p.m.@Secret
Secret 2025-10-04 08:38 p.m.
Thank you your honor
BrendaCompensatory damages are denied. There has been no evidence of medical expenses or other actual damages.
nick 2025-10-04 08:38 p.m.
Your Honour, on behalf of the Plaintiff, we move for an evidentiary hearing on the issue of compensatory damages pursuant to Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 37(g).
nick 2025-10-04 08:38 p.m.
Which we would like the opportunity to present with supporting evidence.
nick 2025-10-04 08:38 p.m.
We request the Court allow the Plaintiff to submit such evidence to establish the proper amount of damages.
nickYour Honour, on behalf of the Plaintiff, we move for an evidentiary hearing on the issue of compensatory damages pursuant to Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 37(g).
Brenda 2025-10-04 08:39 p.m.
48 hours to submit discovery. Scheduling order will be entered
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-04 08:39 p.m.@Secret @nick @surgent
This is terminated.
This is terminated.
nick 2025-10-04 08:47 p.m.PLAINTIFF'S DISCLOSURES
@Brenda @Secret
nickBrenda 2025-10-04 08:50 p.m.
Where's the damages?
Secret 2025-10-04 08:53 p.m.
I am sorry, who is flowingracks?
BrendaWhere's the damages?
nick 2025-10-04 08:54 p.m.
apologies, your honour, i neglected to attach the affidavit of damages to our filing
nick 2025-10-04 08:54 p.m.
I request permission to submit it now so the Court has a complete record regarding comepsnatory damages
Brenda 2025-10-04 08:55 p.m.
Sure
SecretI am sorry, who is flowingracks?
nick 2025-10-04 08:55 p.m.
bro im so sleep deprived i need to file a notice of errata for ts
Secret 2025-10-04 08:56 p.m.
hey twin i respect the hustle
Secret 2025-10-04 08:56 p.m.
can my lawyer @El Taco Man be added?
Brenda 2025-10-04 08:58 p.m.
He needs to file NoA
nick 2025-10-04 09:05 p.m.AFFIDAVIT OF DAMAGES
@Brenda @Secret
judicialFLOW Bot2025-10-04 09:05 p.m.Requester: @El Taco Man
Party:AccurateSWalker
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Secret 2025-10-04 09:08 p.m.@Brenda
Secret 2025-10-04 09:08 p.m.
My attorney has now requested appearance, your honor.
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BotjudicialFLOWClick to see attachment.(edited)
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:12 p.m.
I haven't been keeping track of this Discord as of late, when did this get implemented? Just curious
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:12 p.m.
I like it though, neat addition
nick 2025-10-04 09:12 p.m.
bout 2 days ago or sum
El Taco ManI like it though, neat addition
nick 2025-10-04 09:13 p.m.
No problem
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:13 p.m.@Brenda Your honor, I know I have just stepped into the courtroom, but may I speak inside your chambers for but a moment? (DM's)
El Taco ManBrenda 2025-10-04 09:14 p.m.
Yes
BrendaYes
nick 2025-10-04 09:15 p.m.
if the topic impacts my client, may I request to be there?(edited)
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:21 p.m.
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Your honor@Brenda , I would like to make it relevant that @nick the plaintiff's representative has a high likeliness of the usage of ChatGPT, or other AI-styled paraphrasers. I believe this is an insult to me, and my client. Not only is this an insult to us, this is in my own fair opinion a mockery of the courts. I pride myself with using my fair use of knowledge and ability to write my own documents with my own two hands. I don't believe this was used responsibly, and I am in high belief that the usage of ChatGPT remains steady through the entire plaintiff's claim.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915711506119790622/1424201275490308186/image.png?ex=68e3164c&is=68e1c4cc&hm=b7f604571b5c740d6cd642fc111fa163eca28e230930eef17ba8edb44f49c071&
Your honor
El Taco Mannick 2025-10-04 09:22 p.m.
um i used AI to assist me in drafting parts of my document due to my sleep deprivation and nothing explicitly states i cannot
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:22 p.m.
I'd like to also note, that the plaintiff did not underline damages during his initial claim, which is highly suspicious.
nick 2025-10-04 09:22 p.m.
i have also clearly stated mayflower law which is not publicly available twin whats the issue?
nick 2025-10-04 09:22 p.m.
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
My own belief is that you completely used ChatGPT, not as assistance, but as a crutch.
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
yeah but you have to prove that :P
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
the burden is on you
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
Yeah
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
I'm explaining so right now
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
how does this relate to the trial
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
you are taking up the courts time
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
I am not
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
bro i wanna go to sleep
nick 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
please
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:23 p.m.
?
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:24 p.m.
This is very serious, especially very important to myself.
nick 2025-10-04 09:24 p.m.
this is absolutely UNNECESSARY
nick 2025-10-04 09:24 p.m.
i dont understand are you saying you never used AI once
nick 2025-10-04 09:25 p.m.
most i used it for is to refine style of my texts to legalistic
nick 2025-10-04 09:25 p.m.
please stop taking up the courts time and lets move on
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:25 p.m.
I don't use it as a crutch, it's fine to use it for little bits of assistance. I am implying a heavy usage of AI throughout your entire affidavit. The damages are also something to note when speaking about such things.
nickmost i used it for is to refine style of my texts to legalistic
nick 2025-10-04 09:25 p.m.
hence ^
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:26 p.m.
Is it possible to see your AI chats?
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:26 p.m.
Like the history and all,
nick 2025-10-04 09:26 p.m.
yes
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:26 p.m.
This will certainly clear the air
nick 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m. 
nick 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
Sick mouse recommend 10/10 for the record
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
Why do you only have one chat?
nick 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
because i use temporary chats for quick things
nick 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
why would i need to save it at all
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
All chats save through ChatGPT
nick 2025-10-04 09:27 p.m.
all im doing is refining it
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
not temporary chats..
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
:P
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
That's sadly not a thing
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m. 
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
?
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
Oh okay, I guess it does you learn something new every day
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
Can you use your history
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
its actually very good for keeping it safe
nick 2025-10-04 09:28 p.m.
yes
nick 2025-10-04 09:30 p.m.
yea mate so i dont believe it saves the name i think thats the purpose
nick 2025-10-04 09:31 p.m.
i would use quillbot but they got no legalistic options
nick 2025-10-04 09:31 p.m.
who got quillbot premium here 
El Taco Mannick 2025-10-04 09:34 p.m.
i dont even get how this is AI i literally changed like 3 lines and it got tagged as AI
nick 2025-10-04 09:34 p.m.
its tagging because its finding AI vocab
nick 2025-10-04 09:34 p.m.
this doesnt prove anything
nicknick 2025-10-04 09:40 p.m.@Brenda Your Honour, I have provided the Affidavit of Damages
nick 2025-10-04 09:41 p.m.@El Taco Man btw 
nick 2025-10-04 09:43 p.m.
its detecting AI vocab but its still 0% like "duly sworn" and/or "recklessly pursued"
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:54 p.m.
This will be the last message in relation to AI, and the usage of ChatGPT. Your honor, I'd like to request that the plaintiff keeps copies of all AI chat's used in the future due to multiple websites having purported a majority of his text as AI.
The plaintiff has already stated that he uses it to some degree, I'd like to ensure that the courts isn't made a mockery of.
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The plaintiff has already stated that he uses it to some degree, I'd like to ensure that the courts isn't made a mockery of.
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El Taco ManThis will be the last message in relation to AI, and the usage of ChatGPT. Your honor, I'd like to request that the plaintiff keeps copies of all AI chat's used in the future due t...
nick 2025-10-04 09:55 p.m.
no
nick 2025-10-04 09:55 p.m.
what mockery is there and im not demanding disrespectfully nor undermining what the courts are
nick 2025-10-04 09:56 p.m.
I stated that I have changed 3 lines within the document yes which is not the whole document
nick 2025-10-04 09:56 p.m.
whereas the whole document has multiple lines up to 20+ typically
nick 2025-10-04 09:57 p.m.
I apologise for writing legalistically and having perfect punctuation
nick 2025-10-04 09:57 p.m.
Does this please the counsel?
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:57 p.m.
Regardless, it is a statement of fact that you have used AI. That is true, and I'd like to have it on record to what degree it has been used by having your chats saved.
nick 2025-10-04 09:58 p.m.
i dont understand how i could of used AI mayflower statutes arent publicly available
nick 2025-10-04 09:58 p.m.
but okay
nick 2025-10-04 09:59 p.m.
chatgpt cant read spreadsheets
nick 2025-10-04 09:59 p.m.
by link
nick 2025-10-04 09:59 p.m.
nor can ai any do that
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 09:59 p.m.
If I may ask respectfully, is there any issue with this request other than that you claim to have only used it on three sentences? I think this is a reasonable ask.
El Taco ManIf I may ask respectfully, is there any issue with this request other than that you claim to have only used it on three sentences? I think this is a reasonable ask.
nick 2025-10-04 10:01 p.m.
its absolutely unnecessary that I have changed 3 lines to legalistic form + we would be wasting courts time further
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 10:02 p.m.
Okay, but if that's what you claim why not make it a statement of fact by allowing this?
nick 2025-10-04 10:02 p.m.
i mean sure i doubt im gonna be using it any further
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 10:02 p.m.
You'd prove to the courts, and my client that you are using AI as an aid, not a direct crutch.
nick 2025-10-04 10:02 p.m.
i doubt im going to need to provide any further documents
El Taco Man 2025-10-04 10:03 p.m.
?
nick 2025-10-04 10:03 p.m.
let me see if i can go back on the document
nick 2025-10-04 10:05 p.m.
oh it was 2
nick 2025-10-04 10:05 p.m. 
nick 2025-10-04 10:06 p.m.
you can see numbered list 3 and 6(b) was the only ones i changed(edited)
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 03:12 a.m.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CrzCgtnPC2WKqReGow8W8CUEOLaQ61e3/view?usp=sharing
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El Taco Man 2025-10-05 03:19 a.m.
I'm unsure if I need to file this anywhere, this case is marked as transitional on the Trello.
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 03:20 a.m.
Just letting you know before I head to bed! God bless Mayflower
nick 2025-10-05 11:02 a.m.PLAINTIFF’S REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S OBJECTION TO PLAINTIFF’S AFFIDAVIT OF DAMAGES AND RESPONSE TO REQUEST FOR AN EVIDENTIARY HEARING
@Brenda @El Taco Man @Secret
BrendaEl Taco Man 2025-10-05 08:06 p.m.@nick Just so you know btw
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BrendaBrenda 2025-10-05 10:52 p.m.@El Taco Man @nick @Secret @surgent
A hearing pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 37(g) is scheduled for October 6, 2002, at 3 PM Pacific Time. As the hearing begins, Plaintiff will get one hour to present his arguments, exhibits, and depose his witnesses, if any. Defendant will subsequently get one hour to do the same.
The parties will abide by these rules when the hearing begins:
- Crosstalk is prohibited.
- Any untimely submissions will not be accepted without leave of the Court.
- Parties are reminded to limit arguments to damages. Any submissions not pertaining to damages will be struck.
Any violation of these rules or those posted inchamber-information is punishable by prison and/or fine.
Order will be entered.(edited)
A hearing pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 37(g) is scheduled for October 6, 2002, at 3 PM Pacific Time. As the hearing begins, Plaintiff will get one hour to present his arguments, exhibits, and depose his witnesses, if any. Defendant will subsequently get one hour to do the same.
The parties will abide by these rules when the hearing begins:
- Crosstalk is prohibited.
- Any untimely submissions will not be accepted without leave of the Court.
- Parties are reminded to limit arguments to damages. Any submissions not pertaining to damages will be struck.
Any violation of these rules or those posted in
Order will be entered.(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-05 10:54 p.m.
Default judgment remains granted as to liability. Damages will be determined in this hearing.(edited)
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:04 p.m.
12 AM PST?
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:04 p.m.
That's 3 AM for me, I cannot do that
El Taco Manhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1CrzCgtnPC2WKqReGow8W8CUEOLaQ61e3/view?usp=sharing CC: @Brenda @nick @surgent @Secret
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:05 p.m.@Brenda Did you see this
El Taco ManBrenda 2025-10-05 11:11 p.m.
The objection is denied. You can raise these arguments at the hearing.
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-05 11:16 p.m.@El Taco Man @nick @Secret @surgent
Changed to 3 PM Pacific Time(edited)
Changed to 3 PM Pacific Time(edited)
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:16 p.m.
Can we do any earlier
Brenda 2025-10-05 11:16 p.m.
How much earlier?
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:16 p.m.
2-3 hours
Brendasurgent 2025-10-05 11:17 p.m.
Sounds great. Can’t do earlier.
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:17 p.m.
Looks like we need to reschedule to another day entirely then
surgent 2025-10-05 11:18 p.m.
Busy weekdays for me. Impossible.
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:18 p.m.
Well you have counsel actually
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:18 p.m.
Is 3 PM PST good for you @nick
Brenda 2025-10-05 11:18 p.m.
The hearing is rescheduled for October 6, 2002, at 3 PM Pacific Time.
Brenda 2025-10-05 11:19 p.m.@El Taco Man @nick
El Taco Man 2025-10-05 11:19 p.m.
Thank you!
Secret 2025-10-05 11:19 p.m.
Thank you your honor
surgent 2025-10-05 11:19 p.m.
Thank you your honor
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 12:28 a.m.
Your Honor @Brenda would you mind if we seek for leave to file for a motion to reconsider.
Brenda 2025-10-06 12:47 a.m.
Denied
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 01:00 a.m.
Your honor @Brenda would you mind if we seek for leave to file a motion for clarification.
Brendanick 2025-10-06 06:09 a.m.
Yes that is fine, Your Honour.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:45 p.m.
nick 2025-10-06 04:45 p.m.
I think your motion got denied.
nick 2025-10-06 04:45 p.m.
Uhm.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:45 p.m.
Only my leave did
El Taco ManBrenda 2025-10-06 04:46 p.m.
Denied. Default judgment was not terminated. This Court terminated the award of damages.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:46 p.m.
?
BrendaEl Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:46 p.m.
"This is terminated."
BrendaDefault judgment remains granted as to liability. Damages will be determined in this hearing.(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-06 04:47 p.m.
*
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:47 p.m.
Yes, this is exactly my point
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:47 p.m.
Granted as to liability
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:47 p.m.
Please read my motion, I sincerely ask you to
Brenda 2025-10-06 04:48 p.m.
I have read your motion. The entry of default was not vacated.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:48 p.m.
This was all brought upon by the Plaintiff, not the defense to begin with
Brenda 2025-10-06 04:48 p.m.
This Court terminated the award of damages pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 38(g). Default judgment has not been set aside
Brenda 2025-10-06 04:49 p.m.
Your client is still in default. Damages will be determined in the hearing at 3 PM.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:49 p.m.
This prejudices my client, but okay
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:53 p.m.
After everything my client has been through, through trying to find a satisfactory legal representative. Especially through the SGO, who kindly stated that they WOULD defend him and then proceeded to delete his ticket and falsify he ever did. This case has only been but unfair to the defense as presented, and I'd like to put this on record.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:54 p.m.
It just makes zero sense to handle it this way as I see it.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 04:58 p.m.
Your honor, I'm asking for leeway. I only see it as fair if the default had already been entered and the Plaintiff is requesting more, especially when this is procedurally unsound.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 05:00 p.m.@Brenda
nick 2025-10-06 05:10 p.m.
I believe you should argue against the rules of civil procedure for this one mate.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 05:38 p.m.
Your honor, @Brenda Defense seeks for leave to file a Motion for Relief.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 05:43 p.m.
I'd also like to request that we set aside default judgement, in conjunction with Mayf. R. Civ. P. 39(b)(1) As previously stated by the Court, the Court has terminated the award of damages, creating uncertainty as to whether the default remained in effect. Due to this ambiguity, and with the sole interest of fairness, Defense asks that the default be set aside so that the Defendant may fully defend the action on merits.
@Brenda
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 05:49 p.m.
Further, my client was engaged in an ongoing ticket with the SGO in regard to this matter. The SGO indicated that they would shortly file a response before the deadline of August 8, 2025. They never provided a response, and with that they deleted the Defendant's ticket within their Discord. This constitutes excusable neglect, according to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 39(b)(1).
This response has already been on record since light of the default judgement, my client had already stated it on record previously. And I am only furthering that statement by reiterating it.
This response has already been on record since light of the default judgement, my client had already stated it on record previously. And I am only furthering that statement by reiterating it.
nick 2025-10-06 05:56 p.m.
The Court has clearly stated that that the default judgment as to liability stands, with only damages to be determined at the hearing.
nick 2025-10-06 05:58 p.m.
Defendant's reliance on the SGO alleged failure doesn't meet requirements for excusable neglect under Mayf. R. Civ P. 39(b)(1), as you have not provided evidence of SGO's actions or that it was confirmed the motion was filed within 5 days of the default judgment.
nick 2025-10-06 05:58 p.m.
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nick 2025-10-06 05:58 p.m.
hope this helps
nick 2025-10-06 05:58 p.m.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:01 p.m.
The evidence will have to be ascertained by a subpeona, which is why I ask that the default be set aside for now as I do so. My client has failed to find any legal representative to defend him up until now, I just find this ridiculous. If the Court would allow me a chance to pick up the slack that my client had to endure, this would be very sincere.
nick 2025-10-06 06:04 p.m.
Up to the court's discretion honestly but this is kind of impractical given the imminent hearing
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:04 p.m.
I find it to prejudice my client, regardless of an imminent hearing as I have tried to give notice multiple times up until now.
El Taco ManFurther, my client was engaged in an ongoing ticket with the SGO in regard to this matter. The SGO indicated that they would shortly file a response before the deadline of August 8...
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:06 p.m.
Even if this were true, your client has not been diligent in getting a response filed.
Your client had until September 6, 2002, to submit a response. No appearance was filed for your client. The Court entered default on September 12, 2002, at which time your client did not say anything. On September 15, 2002, your client informed the Court that the Solicitor General had refused to represent him. However, he did not move for a continuance or to set aside default, and he made no attempt to file a response pro se.
Your client had until September 6, 2002, to submit a response. No appearance was filed for your client. The Court entered default on September 12, 2002, at which time your client did not say anything. On September 15, 2002, your client informed the Court that the Solicitor General had refused to represent him. However, he did not move for a continuance or to set aside default, and he made no attempt to file a response pro se.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:06 p.m.
At the end of the deadline, your client knew that no response had been filed. Yet he made no attempt to remediate that.
AwesomeDefault is entered. Now, the question is on damages. I’ll allow submissions from either sides on what amount of compensatory and/or punitive damages is appropriate until 09/14/2025...
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:07 p.m.
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BrendaEven if this were true, your client has not been diligent in getting a response filed. Your client had until September 6, 2002, to submit a response. No appearance was filed for ...
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:08 p.m.
My client has no knowledge of court procedure, I don't believe pro se would have been a great option regardless for him. He was ready to pay the amount of the initial default, however the Plaintiff wanted to seek more recovery. This has become unfair for the Defense. It's very hard to find a legal representative within Mayflower at this current time, hence why I'm here. He's currently attempting to remediate it, and I wish for the courts to entertain this.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:09 p.m.
He never agreed to defend himself pro se, it was entered for him automatically since he couldn't find counsel. He was under the assumption the SGO would respond regardless, but they NEVER did.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:09 p.m.
The fact that the SGO was mentioned in this case, and never gave response regardless is what confuses me.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:09 p.m.
There is no right to assistance of counsel in a civil case.
If your client was unable to secure counsel, he had an affirmative duty to represent himself.
If your client was unable to secure counsel, he had an affirmative duty to represent himself.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:10 p.m.
And given that you just stated "[h]e was ready to pay the amount of the initial default," that tells me that setting aside default is not proper.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:10 p.m.
Regardless, you see my issue with how this entire case has been conducted.
BrendaAnd given that you just stated "[h]e was ready to pay the amount of the initial default," that tells me that setting aside default is not proper.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:10 p.m.
He has the money is what I mean
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:11 p.m.
If he had been required to pay the amount, he would do so.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:11 p.m.
I still stand here asking for leeway from the Court.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:14 p.m.@El Taco Man @nick
I find that the Defendant did not act with due dilligence in seeking relief from the default. Therefore, the motion for relief from final judgment and to set aside this Court's entry of default isDENIED. This Court's judgment will be appealable.(edited)
I find that the Defendant did not act with due dilligence in seeking relief from the default. Therefore, the motion for relief from final judgment and to set aside this Court's entry of default is
BrendaEven if this were true, your client has not been diligent in getting a response filed. Your client had until September 6, 2002, to submit a response. No appearance was filed for ...
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:15 p.m.
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based on the foregoing.(edited)
based on the foregoing.(edited)
El Taco ManFurther, my client was engaged in an ongoing ticket with the SGO in regard to this matter. The SGO indicated that they would shortly file a response before the deadline of August 8...
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:15 p.m.
What about this
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:16 p.m.
I have already addressed that above. Your client failed to act with diligence in seeking relief from the default
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:16 p.m.
He said nothing after the deadline when found out. He cannot bring this up a month later.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:17 p.m.
He stated so, how can you expect someone with no knowledge of procedure of the Court to bring up relief?
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:18 p.m.
Regardless of pro se.. he was seeking counsel from the SGO. They themselves never responded.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:18 p.m.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
Given that your client is a law enforcement officer, he is well aware of this principle.
Given that your client is a law enforcement officer, he is well aware of this principle.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:19 p.m.
Law Enforcement does not completely make someone aware of such, this afterall is also Mayflower
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:19 p.m.
If your client had moved to set aside the default when the deadline had lapsed, this Court would, perhaps, have granted it. Now that he has said nothing for a month and only changed his mind after a hearing was schduled, the Rules don't permit relief.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:19 p.m.
Might I also add that the previous Judge's responses were so slow that this case had to be reassigned regardless?
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:20 p.m.
I'm not gonna enable a trend where defendants fail to respond and act clueless when default is entered
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:20 p.m.
The motion is denied. And you will have an opportunity to appeal when this case is over.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 06:20 p.m.
This is not a trend, but okay.
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-06 06:21 p.m.
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:21 p.m.@nick @El Taco Man
Brenda 2025-10-06 06:21 p.m.
We will be in session for the Rule 37 hearing now
Brenda 2025-10-06 11:54 p.m.@El Taco Man @nick @Secret @surgent
For reasons stated in the attached Post-Hearing Memorandum and Order, it isORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED that–
1. The Clerk of Court shall enter final judgment against Defendant AccurateSWalker pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 38(e);
2. Defendant is ordered to pay compensatory damages in the amount of two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000.00) within five (5) days of this Order; and
3. Defendant is ordered to pay punitive damages in the amount of five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) within five (5) days of this Order.(edited)
For reasons stated in the attached Post-Hearing Memorandum and Order, it is
1. The Clerk of Court shall enter final judgment against Defendant AccurateSWalker pursuant to Mayf. R. Civ. P. 38(e);
2. Defendant is ordered to pay compensatory damages in the amount of two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000.00) within five (5) days of this Order; and
3. Defendant is ordered to pay punitive damages in the amount of five hundred thousand dollars ($500,000.00) within five (5) days of this Order.(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-06 11:54 p.m.
Order will be entered
surgent 2025-10-06 11:56 p.m.
Thank you, your honor.
El Taco Man 2025-10-06 11:59 p.m.
How can you claim wrongful death when there hasn't been a claim filed or even pled for it??
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:00 a.m.
This makes no sense your honor.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:00 a.m.
This was a damages hearing
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:00 a.m.
You have not read my order whatsoever
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:01 a.m.
I have
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:01 a.m.
This is a Fourth Amendment case for excessive force, not a wrongful death
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:02 a.m.
I see
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:02 a.m.
Never mind your honor, I misread your order.
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-07 12:02 a.m.@Prothonotary's Office
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:03 a.m.
I also do believe the Complaint alleges a count of Wrongful Death. In the interest of judicial economy, however, I've limited the analysis to the 42 U.S.C. § 1983 claim.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:05 a.m.
There will be an appeal
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:10 a.m.
Also, the case law you reference your honor, Carey v. Piphus, 435 U.S. 247, 263–64 (1978)
The Court explicitly rejected the idea that emotional distress can be presumed or automatically awarded just because a constitutional violation occurred.
@Brenda
The Court explicitly rejected the idea that emotional distress can be presumed or automatically awarded just because a constitutional violation occurred.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:11 a.m.
It must be proven with credible evidence, such that the Plaintiff did not have..
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:14 a.m.
I find it was proven by a preponderance of the evidence.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:15 a.m.
You can't manage emotional distress without first evaluating it?
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:15 a.m.
I can based on—
1. Exhibit A showing the brutal shooting; and
2. Plaintiff's Affidavit that he, indeed, suffered emotional distress due to the shooting.
1. Exhibit A showing the brutal shooting; and
2. Plaintiff's Affidavit that he, indeed, suffered emotional distress due to the shooting.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
You simply cannot say that when the Plaintiff also described himself dying
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
How can you argue emotional distress, and death?
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
The Court finds that it is more likely than not that he suffered emotional distress, either before or after dying, thus satisfying the evidentiary standard.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
You cannot do that without a proper hearing
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
We just did a hearing.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:16 a.m.
A psychological evaluation of the plaintiff
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:17 a.m.
That is not true at all
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:17 a.m.
Psychological evaluations are not the only way to assess emotional distress
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:17 a.m.
Same goes for humiliation
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:17 a.m.
How can you ascertain it was extreme emotional distress?
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:17 a.m.
How can you ascertain it wasn't only distress from the sound of the firearm?
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:18 a.m.
Guns are loud, but a sworn peace officer was also doing his duty.
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:18 a.m.
I think you're forgetting the part where your client shot R_surgent
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:18 a.m.
causing his death.
El Taco Man 2025-10-07 12:18 a.m.
This was not included in his affidavit of damages.
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:19 a.m.
His Affidavit states this very clearly—
5. "I have endured significant emotional distress, including fear, anxiety, nightmares, and trauma from witnessing my life being threatened by Defendant’s reckless actions."
6. My injuries and the death caused by Defendant have resulted in severe economic and non-economic losses, including: a. Loss of ability to work or earn income due to the incident and its consequences. b. Anticipated funeral expenses and costs associated with the wrongful death. c.General pain, suffering, and loss of enjoyment of life caused by Defendant’s conduct.
5. "I have endured significant emotional distress, including fear, anxiety, nightmares, and trauma from witnessing my life being threatened by Defendant’s reckless actions."
6. My injuries and the death caused by Defendant have resulted in severe economic and non-economic losses, including: a. Loss of ability to work or earn income due to the incident and its consequences. b. Anticipated funeral expenses and costs associated with the wrongful death. c.
nickBrenda 2025-10-07 12:20 a.m.
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Brenda 2025-10-07 12:20 a.m.
He also alleges it in the Complaint and has made it clear on the record.
Brenda 2025-10-07 12:21 a.m.
It is the Court's finding of fact that Plaintiff R_surgent suffered emotional distress from the wrongful conduct delineated in his Complaint.
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Brenda 2025-10-07 12:40 a.m.
Thanks.
El Taco ManA psychological evaluation of the plaintiff
nick 2025-10-07 07:14 a.m.
A plaintiff isn’t required to undergo a psychological evaluation just because they are claiming emotional distress. If a Plaintiff who has and placed their mental condition (e.g., ptsd, depression) in controversy, then it would be acceptable to use an expert.(edited)
nick 2025-10-07 11:09 a.m.@El Taco Man when can your client pay?
nick 2025-10-07 11:09 a.m.@Secret
nick 2025-10-07 04:14 p.m.
@ispi
nick 2025-10-07 04:14 p.m.@El Taco Man ?
surgent 2025-10-07 05:05 p.m.@El Taco Man When can your client pay?
surgent 2025-10-07 07:15 p.m.@Secret When can you pay?
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:25 p.m.@Secret Make an attempt to pay the judgment within 24 hours
Secret 2025-10-07 08:27 p.m.
What was the point of saying within 5 days then
SecretWhat was the point of saying within 5 days then
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:30 p.m.
You're supposed to pay it immediately and no later than 5 days after entry of the Order
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:30 p.m.
I shouldn't have to explain this
Secret 2025-10-07 08:31 p.m.
Yeah sorry tomorrows a busy day
surgent 2025-10-07 08:31 p.m.
It’s okay you can do it now
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:32 p.m.@Secret You will state 1. a date; and 2. time you can pay the judgment in this channel
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:32 p.m.
within 1 hour
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:32 p.m.
Thanks.(edited)
Secret 2025-10-07 08:35 p.m.
I think Friday works
SecretI think Friday works
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:38 p.m.
At what time?
surgentIt’s okay you can do it now
Brenda 2025-10-07 08:40 p.m.@Secret Given you're currently online, it appears you're able to pay it now 
Brenda 2025-10-07 09:32 p.m.@surgent . are you still online
Brendasurgent 2025-10-07 09:52 p.m.
Yes
surgentYes
Brenda 2025-10-07 09:54 p.m.
Great
Brenda 2025-10-07 09:55 p.m.@Secret Pay today or contempt
surgent 2025-10-07 10:19 p.m.@Secret Please pay so we get this over with
Secret 2025-10-07 10:19 p.m.
I must wait for my lawyer
Secret 2025-10-07 10:19 p.m.
I have been advised to do so
Brenda 2025-10-07 10:22 p.m.@Secret If you fail to make payment by midnight today (EST) you will be held in contempt
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-07 10:22 p.m.@El Taco Man You will advise your client to comply or be held in contempt also
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-07 10:22 p.m.@surgent
surgent 2025-10-07 10:23 p.m.
Will be available
surgent 2025-10-07 11:34 p.m.@Brenda
surgent 2025-10-07 11:34 p.m.
Deadline is in 30 minutes right?
Brenda 2025-10-07 11:34 p.m.
Correct
surgentDeadline is in 30 minutes right?
Brenda 2025-10-07 11:37 p.m.@Secret 23 min until contempt + suspension of your LETI license
surgent 2025-10-08 12:07 a.m.@Secret Do you think you can do it now?
surgentSecret 2025-10-08 12:07 a.m.
ive been trying to reach taco but hes busy and hasnt been able to respond :/
Secret 2025-10-08 12:08 a.m.
im not dodging, ur gonna get paid im just waiting on him
Brenda 2025-10-08 12:47 a.m.@Secret @surgent @nick @El Taco Man
ORDER: Pursuant to 5 MSC 1 § 2104.1, this Court finds that on October 7, 2002, Defendant failed to pay this Court's Default Judgement by 12:00 AM Eastern Time, failed to make any attempt on the record to pay this Court's Default Judgment in a timely manner, and has represented to the Court that he intends to deliberately delay payment of the Default Judgment in violation of this Court's Orders; accordingly, it isORDERED that Defendant is held in contempt of court. Defendant will be remanded to the custody of the Clark County Sheriff's Office and will remain imprisoned indefinitely until payment is made.(edited)
ORDER: Pursuant to 5 MSC 1 § 2104.1, this Court finds that on October 7, 2002, Defendant failed to pay this Court's Default Judgement by 12:00 AM Eastern Time, failed to make any attempt on the record to pay this Court's Default Judgment in a timely manner, and has represented to the Court that he intends to deliberately delay payment of the Default Judgment in violation of this Court's Orders; accordingly, it is
Brenda 2025-10-08 12:47 a.m.
This Order is without prejudice to any criminal penalties the Court may impose later.(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-08 12:58 a.m.
As I indicated earlier, continued defiance of this Court's Orders will result in a criminal conviction under 1 MSC § 1501
Brenda 2025-10-08 12:59 a.m.
The Court will also not hesitate to employ other coercive measures, including a suspension of the contemnor's LETI certificate for a set amount of days
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:46 a.m.
Okay it stated within 5 days, how is this failing to pay this Courts Default??
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:46 a.m.
I'm sorry I immediately went to bed last night following work, ab to head in again. This is just ludicrous
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:47 a.m. 
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:50 a.m.
You cannot find my client to deliberately delay any form of payment when you have quite literally defined it up to 5 days, my client will be paying. 750,000 dollars is a lot of money. My client does not have the extra 200,000 which he was currently gathering through wood logging.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:52 a.m.
Scratch that, just saw what Accurate has responded to me, he has the money in full and can pay it out later this evening at around 9:00 PM EST.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 08:55 a.m.
Holding my client in contempt when you quite literally gave a deadline of 5 days to then order him to before so is insane might I add. And unfair to my client.
El Taco ManOkay it stated within 5 days, how is this failing to pay this Courts Default??
Brenda 2025-10-08 04:53 p.m.
"5 days" is not an invitation by the Court to delay payment for 4 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes
I ordered the defendant to pay itas soon as possible and no later than 5 days from the entry of the Order. Your client has indicated on the record that he intends to deliberately delay payment, and refused any effort by the plaintiff to collect the judgment. I ordered your client to state a date and time he can pay, which he failed to do, stating only a date and ghosting me when I asked for a time. All the while he is online and playing GTA as pointed out by the plaintiff. I then order him to pay before Midnight EST which he refuses to do. He is then held in contempt
I ordered the defendant to pay it
BrendaBrenda 2025-10-08 04:54 p.m.
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BrendaYou're supposed to pay it immediately and no later than 5 days after entry of the Order
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Brenda"5 days" is not an invitation by the Court to delay payment for 4 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes I ordered the defendant to pay it as soon as possible and no later than 5 days...
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:03 p.m.
He didn't see the messages? He was being compliant the entire time. He stated a day, and forgot to add a time. This is still unreasonable, you gave him 5 days to get it done, he also stated Friday implying that he didn't have the money. A generous benefactor was able to make the 200k for him thankfully which is why he stated Friday. He did not know when he was going to receive it. You made a determination rashly, without first asking necessary questions. This is not due process
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:04 p.m.
And I've already stated, my client does NOT KNOW procedure. I am his lawyer, direct these questions to me.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:04 p.m.
He also stated that he was waiting on ME.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:04 p.m.
Again, absurdly rash on your part to assume so.
surgent 2025-10-08 05:14 p.m.@Secret Is it possible for you to do any earlier? Apologize for the rush. I can do 9 PM EST however it gets very late for me and I have work in the morning.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:14 p.m.
Ping me instead
surgent 2025-10-08 05:14 p.m.@El Taco Man Is it possible for you to do any earlier? Apologize for the rush. I can do 9 PM EST however it gets very late for me and I have work in the morning.
surgent 2025-10-08 05:15 p.m.
If you can’t do earlier that’s alright, though it would be solving a problem for me.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:16 p.m.
It will have to be 9 PM EST sadly, if we can do it earlier we will.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:16 p.m.
But I'll ping if that's the case
surgent 2025-10-08 05:16 p.m.
Ok.
El Taco ManHe didn't see the messages? He was being compliant the entire time. He stated a day, and forgot to add a time. This is still unreasonable, you gave him 5 days to get it done, he al...
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:26 p.m.
Yet this is not what he indicated on the record. In his words, Thursday was "a busy day" and he wouldn't be able to pay it then. When he was then asked to pay it today, he made no mention of not having the money, stating only that he was waiting on his lawyer to give him the green light. That is simply not how this works. Your client knows very well that he has to abide by the orders of this Court, not the orders of his attorney.
which is why he stated Friday
Yet this is not what he indicated on the record. In his words, Thursday was "a busy day" and he wouldn't be able to pay it then. When he was then asked to pay it today, he made no mention of not having the money, stating only that he was waiting on his lawyer to give him the green light. That is simply not how this works. Your client knows very well that he has to abide by the orders of this Court, not the orders of his attorney.
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:26 p.m.
If he needed extra time to acquire the money, he could, and should, have stated that on the record
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:27 p.m.
As I made it very clear that needlessly delaying it would result in contempt
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:28 p.m.
I then gave him until Midnight EST, where, again, he did not mention not having enough money
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:28 p.m.
I'm not sure where you're getting him "being compliant" from when he has resisted every effort by the plaintiff to collect the judgment, and ignored the Court on numerous occasions instead of, assuming what you're saying is even true, asking for extra time(edited)
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:29 p.m.
Your client may be released when he is ready to pay. Thanks.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:38 p.m.
Yet you still infer.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:39 p.m.
And anyways, he still waited on me to say such as I am his attorney.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:40 p.m.
You still violated my clients rights. You gave a deadline, regardless of whatever time or discretion that is simply the deadline.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:40 p.m.
He made right to say Friday, if at whatever time you could have simply followed up
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:41 p.m.
This is not the fault of my client
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 05:44 p.m.
From the way I see it, you were trying to find reason to put my client in contenpt
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:49 p.m.
It's within this Court's sound discretion to change and modify its own Orders and deadlines as it sees fit
Brenda 2025-10-08 05:50 p.m.
Defendant was being uncooperative and indicated he was delaying, and the Court responded by giving him a day to pay the money
BrendaIt's within this Court's sound discretion to change and modify its own Orders and deadlines as it sees fit
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:06 p.m.
This is actually absurd what??
BrendaDefendant was being uncooperative and indicated he was delaying, and the Court responded by giving him a day to pay the money
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:06 p.m.
He was not being uncooperative.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:06 p.m.
Your discretion is unwarranted in this situation.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:08 p.m.
I'm sure you know this entire ordeal is just highly unjustified
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:08 p.m.
I don't know why you're trying to double down lol
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:09 p.m.
Remove the contempt, call it a day my client is paying at 9:00 PM EST
El Taco ManRemove the contempt, call it a day my client is paying at 9:00 PM EST
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:11 p.m.
With THIS being said, unjail my client for tonight's wire
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:12 p.m.
It might be done sooner, that's why I ask
El Taco ManHe was not being uncooperative.
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:21 p.m.
He definitely was, and looking at his criminal records, this isnt the first time this Court has held him in contempt
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:22 p.m.
Your client has been released and I will expect him to make payment no later than 9:00 PM EST
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:22 p.m.
Plaintiff will inform the Court immediately if Defendant fails to pay again
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:22 p.m.@surgent @nick @El Taco Man @Secret
surgent 2025-10-08 06:23 p.m.
Understood, thank you very much, your honor.
BrendaHe definitely was, and looking at his criminal records, this isnt the first time this Court has held him in contempt
Secret 2025-10-08 06:23 p.m.
For the record, it is meant to be expunged, it was during the MNG developer event.
Secret 2025-10-08 06:24 p.m.
I have no intention of being uncooperative or anything, I had no intention of getting on last night as I was already doing things while you were trying to get me on, however I am more comfortable with my lawyer being present while the transaction takes place
BrendaHe definitely was, and looking at his criminal records, this isnt the first time this Court has held him in contempt
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:35 p.m.
That contempt charge is invalid and actually needs to be removed. That was the contempt charge he was given during the MNG event
BrendaHe definitely was, and looking at his criminal records, this isnt the first time this Court has held him in contempt
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:36 p.m.
I'm in heavy disagreement, please remove his contempt charge
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:40 p.m.
I do not want to argue this further
SecretI have no intention of being uncooperative or anything, I had no intention of getting on last night as I was already doing things while you were trying to get me on, however I am...
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:53 p.m.
And for the record, he stated Friday to begin with. Why are you still disregarding that aspect. The follow up message to this response should have been "what time"
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:54 p.m.
It's obvious my client was busy, regardless he didn't even have the money at the time. He was still talking to someone trying to manage it.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:54 p.m.
I don't know how any of this was non compliant. It's not complicated, you were just trying to find reason to hold him in contempt.
BrendaAt what time?
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:56 p.m.
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Brenda 2025-10-08 06:56 p.m.
Interesting.
nick 2025-10-08 06:56 p.m.
If the Defendant doesn't have enough to pay, we can do an installment order.
Brenda 2025-10-08 06:56 p.m.
And no, playing GTA does not qualify as being busy
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:57 p.m.
This is a game, he's playing another game
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:57 p.m.
Yes it does
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:57 p.m.
Life isn't Clark
nick 2025-10-08 06:57 p.m.
Life is Clark
nickIf the Defendant doesn't have enough to pay, we can do an installment order.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:57 p.m.
He has it in full
nickLife is Clark
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:58 p.m.
This ridiculous man, do you or your client see this as a need
nick 2025-10-08 06:58 p.m.
See what as a need?
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:58 p.m.
Like contempt was not necessary in the slightest
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:58 p.m.
Nor was the expedition of this request
nick 2025-10-08 06:59 p.m.
That determination rests with the court, not with me
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:59 p.m.
He has the Money NOW.. but he did not have it at the time of request. He still stated a date though
nickThat determination rests with the court, not with me
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:59 p.m.
I'm asking your opinion
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 06:59 p.m.
Regardless
nick 2025-10-08 07:00 p.m.
I take no position on the matter.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:00 p.m.
Ok
BrendaInteresting.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:01 p.m.
Okay, so even then. He was still conferring with someone at this time
surgent 2025-10-08 07:01 p.m.
I don’t want to be that guy but I believe that arguing will only lead to more problems.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:05 p.m.
No it won't
surgent 2025-10-08 07:06 p.m.
What is the need of arguing when we can get this over with once Accurate pays
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:07 p.m.
The point is my client was held in contempt over virtually nothing, and everything due to that fact is being inferred
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:10 p.m.
The plaintiff doesn't even seem like caring for this, the courts somehow does? There have been zero complaints at all. This all fell under the Court and the Judge simply wanting it to happen. This argument is only happening since the Judge seemingly wants to double down on a matter that is not even an issue
nick 2025-10-08 07:11 p.m.
I believe he is doing his job.
nick 2025-10-08 07:11 p.m.
Or she.
BrendaAnd no, playing GTA does not qualify as being busy
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:12 p.m.
I've already heard the opinion of another Judge and what you claim is entirely absurd.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:13 p.m.
This situation is absurd, just remove the charge lol
El Taco ManThis situation is absurd, just remove the charge lol
nick 2025-10-08 07:17 p.m.
I don’t think you understand.
nick 2025-10-08 07:17 p.m.
This isn’t about plaintiff or defendant anymore but an order of the court.
nick 2025-10-08 07:18 p.m.
The judge is simply trying to protect the authority of the court.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:19 p.m.
Yeah I don't think so
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:19 p.m.
Anyways @Brenda can you please unjail my client.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:20 p.m.
And then remove his contempt charge
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:20 p.m.
Remove both 
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:20 p.m.
If you don't want to remove the first charge, I'll speak to the judge who issued it to resolve that one.
Brenda 2025-10-08 07:23 p.m.
I am not expunging your client's previous contempt charge. He will have to take that up with the judge that issued it
BrendaYour client has been released and I will expect him to make payment no later than 9:00 PM EST
Brenda 2025-10-08 07:24 p.m.
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Brenda*
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:25 p.m.
Thank you
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:25 p.m.
Still talking about the contempt charge you gave him.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:25 p.m.
Can you remove it
nick 2025-10-08 07:26 p.m.@El Taco Man when is the earliest your client can pay?
nick 2025-10-08 07:27 p.m.
cc: @Secret
Brenda 2025-10-08 07:27 p.m.
That has already been removed
nickEl Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:27 p.m.
We already scheduled a time
BrendaThat has already been removed
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:27 p.m.
Thank you
nickEl Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:27 p.m.
I'll see if we can do it earlier, just give me a little bit.
El Taco ManI'll see if we can do it earlier, just give me a little bit.
nick 2025-10-08 07:28 p.m.
Okay, no worries. Let me know as soon as possible.(edited)
Secret 2025-10-08 07:40 p.m.@nick @surgent can you get in game now?
Secret 2025-10-08 07:40 p.m.
I am in server ID: 575a-4b0c
surgent 2025-10-08 07:41 p.m.
Coming.
surgent 2025-10-08 07:44 p.m.
Currently in the server. @Secret @El Taco Man
Secret 2025-10-08 07:46 p.m. 
Secret 2025-10-08 07:46 p.m.
money sent
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:46 p.m.
Can we get a handshake in-game @surgent
El Taco ManCan we get a handshake in-game @surgent
surgent 2025-10-08 07:47 p.m.
I'm at lander bank.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:47 p.m.
We're at Mersea
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:47 p.m.
Come over
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:47 p.m.
surgent 2025-10-08 07:48 p.m.
Ok.
nick 2025-10-08 07:48 p.m.@Brenda my client received the money 1
1SecretClick to see attachment.
El Taco Man 2025-10-08 07:48 p.m.@Brenda
Brenda 2025-10-09 04:11 a.m.@Prothonotary's Office Please archive
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